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Archive with e-mails from Marius and Hugo van Woerden

The answers to questions, which I have asked to Marius and Hugo, are below in chronological order. My comments are in italics.

Period: ( Monster = 1964) - (Het Raam = 1965 - 1972) - (Vest = 1973 -1984 )

Vest Keramiek Gouda 5 March 2019 - Old vase with a very special glaze. Are there made many with this glaze?

Indeed very early. There are not made many.

The glaze was formed by reduction effect on a copper containing glaze. In this case 2% copper carbonate. At reduction oil or grease was sprayed in the furnace on the point of ' cooked '. By burning oil and fat, oxygen was extracted from the furnace. As a result, the red of the copper returned.

It was gambling and the result was very different. Quite difficult to deliver what the customer wanted. That's why all unique pieces. You still see the copper green on spots where the copper is oxidized again later. That was sometimes the case with a whole or half furnace. Sometimes with soot on the vase. The soot was removed by brushing with soot (!!!). That was the funny thing. Remove something with the same.
Because of the laborious process and the risks we have stopped soon.

Note: The casting of numbers is also stopped soon. It was also too laborious.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 5 March 2019 - Coffee pot with a special blue paint. Painted by van Woerden?

The coffee pot is painted blue. When photograph the coffee pot blue stripes appeared on my paper.

We have not painted the coffee pot.

Note: The number of this coffee pot is K01. Coffee pots have some times Kof. It is the abbreviation of "Koffie" (= coffee).

Vest Keramiek Gouda 27 February 2019 - Vases with a yellow glaze, maybe an early Rubens?

The middle vase has a Rubens glaze. The other vases have a glaze which is much more yellow. This is harder to see on the picture than in real. The glaze is fairly thick, so probably not applied with a brush.

The three vases are all made by us. Only the middle vase has a Rubens glaze.

Rubens was quite difficult to make. It is finally succeeded with the use of slate powder that was ferrous. It brings the yellow color without melting of the whole glaze by use of iron oxide and without losing the foam effect.

The glaze on the other yellow vases is made with ceramic colour pigments. It is yellowish but does not have the special appearance of Rubens.

Note: The oldest glazes were applied with a brush. The glaze layer was thin. Later a sprayer was used.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 3 Januari 2019 - Jug with a green/blue glaze similar to the glaze of Groeneveldt

It is a jug made by us at "Het Raam" in Gouda.
It could be number K15.

Note: The jug is on an old photo of "Het Raam" in Gouda. The glaze is similar to the glaze of Groeneveldt.
It is not certain that the number is K15. An other vase has the same number.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 1 December 2018 - Difference in size at the same model

The 2 vases are different from size. Both vases have a model and glaze such as from van Woerden. The left vase is 5 cm smaller.

The left (blue one) has the same model and glaze as the Vest vase F40. But this model is copied by Gemovers in Nieuwkoop.

Note: difference in size can have different causes.
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Vest Keramiek Gouda 20 November 2018 - Using of various types of clay

The 3 vases (F40) are made from 3 different kinds of clay. Red, black and white clay after baking.
We used black clay for a short time. Specifically for a certain glaze. We are used red clay quickly. The black clay was not good for the high temperatures. This was the period at "The Raam". Later on we bought clay directly in Germany and that was white baking clay. At the Vest we only worked with white clay.

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 2 November 2018 - Old vase from Monster - signed by Marius van Woerden

This is unique. It is made in Monster. We sold our vases to De Mooij in Rotterdam. The glaze is purchased. Absolutely not made at "Het Raam" in Gouda.

Note: Inside this vase, you can see that this vase is made on a turntable.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 25 Ocktober 2018 - The largest Vest vase (51 cm) in my collection

The large vase with two handles is probably K50. It is a nice one.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 25 October 2018 - Old model visible on an old photo of "Het Raam" in Gouda.

The vase dates from a short period that we cleaned the bottoms with a grinding belt. If you see the result, you understand that it's not for long. This model is produced for a short period.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 23 August 2018 - Pfotobook of my collection

Note: I have made for Marius and Hugo a book with photos of the vases I have collected so far.
It is a good overview of the diversity in forms and glazes which they have made in the van Woerden/Vest period.
The size was 20 x 20 cm.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 26 July 2018 - Flat vase with glaze Negro

Very strang. The glaze can not lie. The vase is cast and made by us. I think that a mould was made and that the model is then rejected for sale.
The model is made specifically for dried flower bouquets.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 16 April 2018 - Kubus KG3 with sticker from Riffarth and a strang number (010)

That a Vest vase has a German Riffarth sticker, is more common (see 3 april 2016). However, this vase has not KG3 but 010 on the bottom. Who has put this number on the bottom?
We put this number on the vase. Riffarth wanted its own encoding. The trading company was located near Frankfurt a/d Main. They went bankrupt at the time.

Note: Riffarth stickers are also common on vases from W-Germany. KG is short for Kubus Gat. (gat = hole)

Vest Keramiek Gouda 9 March 2018 - Vase with Turkish or Egyptian blue glaze

This color and structure is from the early days at "Het Raam 128" in Gouda. A lot of vases with this glaze are made (copper oxide in an alkaline glaze). Also violet/purple with manganese oxide in an alkaline glaze. I think you will not find this violet/purple as soon .

Note: At Capriolus yoy can read that the brothers van Woerden made this color because Groeneveldt claimed that only he could make this color Lava Glaze.
I have bought this vase on Marktplaats, where it was offered as Groeneveldt.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 15 Januari 2018 - Vaas BA6 van Vest of Prosman?

Made by us. That planter is one of the few who have survived the time. Extremely rare, we have made only a few.

Note: Prosman vases are also numbered with a letter and digit.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 26 Oktober 2017 - Vase BA1 with a moulded text (Made in Holland) in the clay

Yes indeed made by us. Just a quick access to make it easier to do, casting numbers. Not a success, is quickly stopped.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 23 Oktober 2017 - Vase with light greenish glaze and black clay

100 % made by us. Very early with black-baked clay. One of the first Lava glazes. Quite unique.

Note: On the bottom you can see the mould line. So this vase is casted. Made at "Het Raam" in Gouda.

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 28 August 2017 - Vase with number 107, not Vest

A vase with moulded number 107, similar to model 106 of Vest. The bottom with the molded number is similar to the Vest vases 105 and 106.
Hugo and Marius know for sure that they have not made this vase.

Note: On the internet this vase is Loré Beesel. This does not seem likely because Loré has numbers started with a B. In addition, Loré has an equally thick standring on the bottom.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 8 August 2017 - Dark glaze "Anthraciet"

This vase has glaze Anthraciet. There are considerable vases sold with this glaze.

Note: In 1976 the glazes Olivia (green) and Anthracite (black) are made for the first time. The vases were baked at 1080 ° C.
Source: In Kannen en Kruiken - September 1976

Vest Keramiek Gouda 1 August 2017 - Oil lamp with a wick and a lid with a hole

No wick of us. The oil lamps were purely decorative and were used for a bouquet of dried flowers.
We had not composed this glaze, but bought it from Degusa in Germany.
The hole was used to bind the lid to the handle.

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Vest Keramiek Gouda 24 juli 2017 - Barn in Monster

The workplace (barn) in Monster where Marius and Hugo started in 1964. Marius was then 23 years and Hugo 18 years.
Photo from van Hugo van Woerden jr

Vest Keramiek Gouda 22 July 2017 - Old vase from 15 July 1966 signed by Marius van Woerden

Yes beautiful. It is made when we were still at "Het Raam" in Gouda. It's very unique that I have put my name on a vase. The vase is casted, not hand turned. I can't remember why. The lava glaze was still difficult then. I think it is the only one that exists with my name. It can be the first vase in Gouda. In any case, one of the first.
I came out of military service in July 1963. Then I have 2 years worked at Groeneveldt and 2 months at Zaalberg. At Zaalberg they wanted me to run round discs. These discs were then laid in a form. Someone else turn it in a template. So I went away soon. I could start then at Ravelli. There I worked for about a year. Then I started together with Hugo in Monster. That will be about 6 or 7 months. We made only hand turned vases.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 16 July 2017 - Purple vase N20

Hugo thought at first that they had not made this model.
Funny,nevertheless made by us, but very rare. The purple lava glaze is based on cobalt oxide and magnesium oxide. We were fairly limited in colors because we have to use magnesium for the lava effect.

Note: Purple lava glaze is made in a short period around 1975. In that period much vases were sold.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 3 July 2017 - Ashtray with blue-green glaze

A super rare original, which hardly has been in production

Note: The blue-green glaze on the bottom resembles that of Groeneveldt. The bottom is very special because there are air holes. .

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 12 June 2017 - Old hand turned vases with red and black clay

Both vases are hand-turned when we just started at "Het Raam" in Gouda.
The left vase is one of the many hand models that Marius made, in red clay (very early). Finally rejected for production in moulds. It can also be a demonstration model, made if there were visitors. Absolutely unique as rejected prototype-form .
The glaze of the right vase is from the period when we still had no spraying machine. We glazed "Negro-like" with a brush. The handle is put on to quickly .

Vest Keramiek Gouda 26 May 2017 - New glaze created by Hugo in may 2017

Hugo is still active in the factory of his son in Nieuwkoop. He is involved with the design of glazes. The picture (made by Hugo van Woerden jr) shows a test vase with one of his many glazes.

Note: The factory in Nieuwkoop is part of "Pottery Direct"

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 23 May 2017 - Old vase made of red baking clay

Two vases with the same model but made of different kinds of clay.
The vase with the red clay is the first cast production in Gouda. The glaze is also very early. It looks a lot like te glaze from the "Steenuil". We did not intend to make the same glaze as Henk Goosen. It was a fluke.
Both vases are made at "Het Raam" 128 in Gouda tel 01820 6754.

Note: Marius and Hugo developed their glazes itself. They did not have the recipes from Henk Goosen van de Steenuil.

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 23 May 2017 - Vase H5 number casted in the clay

There are multiple Vest vases with a number and a raised edge along the bottom (standring). The edge is however never so equally thick as vase H5.
This vase is made by Vest. You won't find often numbers casted in the clay.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 23 May 2017 - Chimney vase with square hole and sphere

This vase is indeed created by Marius. There are never made many of it. The design was rejected .
Probably was the glazing of the inside was technical difficult. The vase was cast at one time. This may also have been the problem. They are not long in production.

Note: Vest vases were known that they were guaranteed waterproof. Thats why they used a separate glaze on the inside.

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 13 April 2017 - Vest vase R17 with a unusual glaze on the inside

It is indeed an early of Woerden. Nice rare.

Note: The red-brown glaze on the inside is only used in the early days.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 13 April 2017 - Chimney vases, jug and coffee pot, probably not made by Vest

The vases are not made by Vest, but by Jopeko and Prosman.

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Note: You can find the results in characteristics.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 7 December 2016 - Old vase with the name van Woerden on the bottom

This vase is quite unique. Made at "Het Raam" with yellow, red backing casting clay. Probably left over from an export order. Thats why "Holland". The glaze is made with about 2% copper oxide in an alkaline mat-glaze.

Note: In order to send products to the US, they have to put the name of the country of origin on it.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 7 December 2016 - Glazes on the inside

The brown glaze is used earlier than the transparent (white). Although sometimes it change. The last years before 1984 only transparent glaze was used. That glaze was stable and waterproof

Note: In the early days in Monster and at "Het Raam" there was used also a real white (not tranparant) glaze on the inside.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 28 August 2016 - Large vase (43 cm) with the glaze Negro

It's a F45 with early Negro glaze. We sold on many scraft stores. Made in Gouda at "The Raam". We made at most a few hundred of it. We don't like to made this model because is was pretty large. Many vases broke down in the oven and they burst also quickly by cooling.

Note: The vase of 43 cm is not the largest vase that Vest has made. K19 (44 cm) and K50 (51 cm) are larger.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 20 August 2016 - Hanging flowerpot on the wall with glaze Oliva

The model looks like a hanging oil lamp. The number is not known. There are not many made.

Note: The glaze Oliva is used for the first time in 1976.
Source: In Kannen en Kruiken - September 1976

Vest Keramiek Gouda 20 August 2016 - Model K15 with the glaze Rode Negro (Red Negro)

A stupid thing. The red color is paint applied after the baking. Really a flop, but we did it for a few customers. They just kept whining for a Red Negro.

Note: the coating of Red Negro is not baked and can therefore be removed. On the right image is to see that it worked. The vase has put some days in a solution of Vanish (a detergent). Then the paint is removed with a solid bristle .

Vest Keramiek Gouda 20 August 2016 - Vase NG20 with a eye-catching glaze

Very super. The red color is due to copper reduction, with more gas and less oxygen. The blue color comes through "overspray" with the same glaze with addition of titanium dioxide. This vase is very beautiful successful.

Note: This brightly colored vases were made in the "Het Raam" period. Striking colors were then wanted. However, in the period after 1977 the glazes were more discreet. The natural colors (brown, grey, olive green and anthracite) formed a good combination with flowers and plants.
Source: In Kannen en Kruiken January 1977

Vest Keramiek Gouda 3 April 2016 - Blue Riffarth vase with number 6/25?

The blue vase is bought in Germany. The seller claimed that it was made by the German company Riffarth, because there is a sticker on it. It looks like that the number on the bottom is 6/25.
It is a Vest vase with model number NG25. Riffarth was a reseller. The color (Royal Blue) was very popular in Germany. There are many sold. In Netherland not so many.

Note: More Vest vases has a Riffarth sticker. Sometimes these vases have a different model number at the request of Riffarth.

Vest Keramiek Gouda 13 Februari 2016 - Vases with a shiny red/blue/white glaze

The photo of the Fleurbeurs in Utrecht is by Hugo van Woerden.
The red glaze is formed by copper reduction. The blue glaze is created by copper/titanium reduction. The result of these glazes was unpredictable and very nicely.

Note: With reduction is the amount of oxygen (air) in an oven reduced.
On this Fleurbeurs the name van Woerden was still used. The name Vest Keramiek was used from 1 January 1976. So the photo must be beforer 1976.
Source: In Kannen en Kruiken September 1976

Vest Keramiek Gouda Vest Keramiek Gouda 5 March 2015- vase with Duif's sticker and vase marked with vW

These vases are not made by Marius. Only round pieces felt were used by van Woerden .
During his military service Marius has marked the bottom of vases with a little fish.

Note: Marius has used in the beginning a little stamp with MvW.

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